Dezeen's Face to Face podcast series continues with an interview with designer Thomas Heatherwick, who talks about his childhood fascination with engineering, his distaste for architectural discourse and how he completed his first building while still a student.
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In the Face to Face series, Dezeen's founder and editor-in-chief Marcus Fairs sits down with leading architects and designers to discuss their lives.

Pavilion, Heatherwick's first building, was completed in 1992 when he was still a student. Photo: Heatherwick Studio
"And so if we were talking about cars, the next weekend we would go to [...] the car show. Or if we were looking at buildings, my father then took me to Milton Keynes, where a whole new city was being built." Architecture "left me cold"
Though he was interested in architecture, the aloofness of the profession put him off, so he decided to study design instead. "I'd witnessed how disconnected the architectural world at that time was from the real creation of places," he said. "It left me cold."
Yet he was always interested in architecture and city-making. He designed his first building when still a student of three-dimensional design at Manchester Polytechnic University.
Although not an architect, Heatherwick is working on huge building projects such as the new Google Campus in California. Photo: ...